[IRC-DEV] Mas sobre los join's en los splits..

[Miguel A. Fosas]

Aquí tienes ^sektor^ :)

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Subject: Re: DALnet-src: Idea
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 01:22:27 -0500
From: Chip Norkus <wd at arpa.com>
To: dalnet-src at DAL.NET

On Thu Sep 19, 2002; 10:33PM -0400 Anthony Simon propagated the following:
> [22.28.13] <Qu3> There is one major thing that could save a lot of CPU
> [22.28.31] <Qu3> Netsplit joins..
> [22.28.48] <Qu3> Why display 800 joins when you could do it in one line
> with a NAMES list refresh (353/366)
> [22.29.03] <Qu3> And maybe a note saying its because of a relink
> [22.29.18] <Qu3> and the same with a QUIT (possibly)

Call me when clients support this.  The server already sends multiple
joins-per-line in server to server traffic.

> [22.29.25] <@rlb> see the joins after a split dont bother me
> [22.29.34] <Qu3> No.. but they are sent to a lot of people.
> [22.29.40] <Qu3> Major CPU lag during synch

Not as bad as you think.  It's more of a moery problem.

> [22.29.54] <@rlb> try sending it to -src@ and see what actrual coders say
> [22.29.57] <@rlb> i am sure there has to be a reason
> [22.30.03] <@rlb> but again you can filter that client side
> [22.30.10] <Qu3> its not a client issue
> [22.30.13] <Qu3> i dont mind the JOINs either
> [22.30.21] <Qu3> but a NAMEs would save so much more CPU power
> [22.30.38] <Qu3> Theyll say "it breaks clients" which it doesn't.

Oh, it doesn't break clients?  Show me a client which treats a spurious
NAMES reply as authoritative for channel members.

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Subject: Re: DALnet-src: Idea
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:09:12 -0700
From: Trevor Talbot <quension at softhome.net>
To: dalnet-src at DAL.NET

On Thursday, Sep 19, 2002, at 23:22 US/Pacific, Chip Norkus wrote:
> On Thu Sep 19, 2002; 10:33PM -0400 Anthony Simon propagated the
>
> following:
>> [22.28.13] <Qu3> There is one major thing that could save a lot of CPU
>> [22.28.31] <Qu3> Netsplit joins..
>> [22.28.48] <Qu3> Why display 800 joins when you could do it in one
>> line
>> with a NAMES list refresh (353/366)
>>
>> [22.30.38] <Qu3> Theyll say "it breaks clients" which it doesn't.
>
> Oh, it doesn't break clients?  Show me a client which treats a spurious
> NAMES reply as authoritative for channel members.

mIRC does.  However, its IAL is now incomplete, and scripts will be
unhappy.  Builtin auto-op/voice/ignore mechanisms are useless.

To continue the "it will break clients" tone: consider an eggdrop bot.
It recognizes people by the user at host they use.  That information is
contained in a JOIN.  It is not in NAMES.

-- Quension

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